Curse

Franco Power · Dec 15, 2006, 01:19 PM // 13:19

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

imagine all the wammos with gladz and fOW helms applying

O_O*

damn they deleted my post, my black wammo with only 1 eye exterminator style would so win the contest

LadyNilene · Dec 15, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Just a heads up that today is the deadline for Photoshoot 1 for our contestants! I'm a little frantic that I haven't received some from a few people, so get them in today! Any entries that arrive on the 16th will be disqualified and disregarded from judging. Again, that doesn't mean you'll automatically be eliminated, but seeing how we only have application and no other past work to weight out our options, conditions are optimal for default eliminations. Not to freak anyone out of course, you still have a couple of hours before deadlines are up! And no, the date you turn in your screenshot will not weight in on our judgement.

**cosyfiep** · Dec 16, 2006, 06:51 AM // 06:51

me thinks that the email-man may be taking a break too......have been getting TONS of spam this week------hope that this has not been happening with our judges so that we can have a real competition!

LadyNilene · Dec 17, 2006, 02:04 AM // 02:04

Originally, I wanted to post a trancript, but after looking at it, you can pretty much tell who said what about whom, so change of plans...I have summarized everyone's comments and I'm trying to make them brief and to the point, so lets start!

In random order...

Catherine Divine

"Me sitting near the statue of Dwayna goddess of life, patrone of
all monks." - Catherine Divine

Judge 1: You talk about Dwayna in your explanation, yet I don't see Dwayna in your picture at all.

Judge 2: If you included Dwayna in your picture, maybe crop it like this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../CatSample.jpg

It would've made a stronger statement. So other than the bulk of Dwayna being cropped from your picture, I think you had a fairly good shot.

Judge 3: I don't like it, like the others, you cut Dwayna out of your picture, but you said that was your main focus. And I think you failed as far as concept as well, Dwayna was a goddess for all campaigns, so it doesn't really set Prophecies apart from the other two campaigns does it?

Xo Katina Xo

"When you think of Tyria, you think of the ascending process. Anyone who has completed all of the missions in Tyria will remember ascending out of all of the missions. It is a big step in the story line, and can be very time consuming! Augury Rock is where the ascending process begins and ends. Katina has the Divine Fire on her, which allows you to gain access to go against your worst enemie; yourself. The screenshot shows Katina embracing the Divine Flames." - Xo Katina Xo

Judge 1: I can appreciate your picture as far as concept goes, but I think it fails in everything else. No face, no good.

Judge 2: I like your picture, the reasoning was good, and I liked how you arch yourself to get that effect in your picture. Although it is true that your face wasn't in the picture, sometimes I think it is ok for there to be no face. Especially when you're trying to advertise for something else...this reminds me of April's Steve Madden shot from ANTM cycle 2:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...cess/April.jpg
(link to April's Steve Madden shot for reference if interested in looking)

Her face wasn't showing in the picture either, but her body position and the shoes she was modeling were prominent in the shot. And I think the same can be said about your picture, your face wasn't in the shot, but I feel the explanation was good and the body position was nice as well for the effect!

Judge 3: I disagree, the concept fails for me, ascension technically occurs in Factions as well. So I don't think your concept was strong enough to make up for failure to show face.

Mortissia Faust

"In preparation to sending in my shot, I thought about the different lores that made a significant impact on Cantha. There were the Kurzicks and Luxons,and the Jade wind, but everything seemed to go back to the roots of the Canthan palace. Without the imperial sanctum and the people that lived in it, the corruption of Cantha would not have happened. On a more positive note, without the Imperial Sanctum and the Royal family, Cantha as a continent itself would not have been as diverse and wealthy as it is now.

In making up my decision that the Imperial Sanctum is one of the most important aspects of Cantha, I proceeded to take a photoshoot with Mortissia in the palace. She wore her own combination of Canthan armour and Imperial armour to show her loyalties to the Canthan empire and her duties as a Imperial Guard of Cantha, while maintaining a unique perspective by matching
her own armour." - Mortissia Faust

Judge 1: Not good, not bad. You talked about the "royal families", but I wasn't sure in what reference that was made in. I don't remember anyone royal but Danika or Emperor Kisu for factions, and really, none of them really shined in the story.

Judge 2: I do agree with the comment that the explanation was a bit odd, but I do like the fact that it was at least asian reminiscient. I think if you slapped the Guild Wars Factions logo on the top, and then right some of the features where the pot is...I think it could make a pretty good ad for the factions campaign.

Judge 3: I don't like the concept. The imperial aspect is strange as the others mention, and I feel the asian theme is too safe to rely on. That's not original in the least.

Jaden Stone

"Cantha is a province known for having some of the most beautiful landmarks and architecture in all of Tyria. From the Rising pagotas of the City to the tower trees of the Echovald forest to the pristine Jade Sea, there is an abundace of beauty. Some would say these places represent cantha better than any other location. So why have I chosen to take my photo elsewhere you may ask. Well, I wanted to show people the hidden treasures cantha has to offer. To whisk them away to somewhere strange and exotic, if only for a moment. I wanted to show them something more beautiful than all the models in this contest put together... A Canthan sunrise. To me, this is my Cantha." - Jaden Stone

Judge 1: Pretty picture, what it has to do with Faction, I haven't the slightest idea. While I can appreciate your reasoning, we were trying to look for something that stood out as Factions, I think you should've went with the obvious and then spruce it up rather than going so far off the deep end.

Judge 2: I think you really like your character's undergarments and that scenery. If i remember correctly, the application pictures you sent are really similar to this one. I think you should move away from that and show us a range of what you can do. Rather than relying on a single look.

Judge 3: I commend you on the picture, I like it, it shows that you were trying to think of something original rather than being safe.

Burnout Chic

"I think that Old Ascalon sky and scenery is the best to represent Tyria, since this is the begining of the story that we are all familiar with. Besides that what could be more Tyrian then Prince Rurik?? I never really understood the general hate towards him, he is not worse then any other ally NPC (Kormir is way worse IMHO)

Since acting is my elementalist's best tallent, i decided to show a touching love scene with Prince Rurik (she won't settle for anything less then a royalty ) before the begining of the battle." - Burnout Chic

Judge 1: We actually dq'ed applications because they sent us "promiscuous" pictures...so I think you're pushing the evelope a little bit. Not only that, but I don't think you showed your campaign too well either, it goes against the lore. Rurik was with Althea, even if she was dead...

Judge 2: I actually kinda like this, yes its not part of the actual lore, but if Guild Wars was ever made into a romantic movie, I think this could totally be used for the movie poster. And I don't think its fair to compare this picture with disqualified contestants who were showing their character kneeling before Mhenlo and co. lol

Judge 3: I'm half and half on this picture. Its original, but it doesn't show your campaign, so it kinda cancels each other out. eh.

I Only Protect You

"When brainstorming over what is unique to Tyria, I came up with two
things:
-The first Guild Wars, laying the first bricks to the saga, and
-The peaceful areas. In Cantha and Elona, panic and chaos are there in
almost every area. In Tyria ithat's definitely not the case.

Both points are illustrated by the Ascalon Settlement. It's a peaceful little town, fresh and young, and her inhabitants are building for a better future. Also, the town is in a different area (Kryta), then where the inhabitants come from (Ascalon). This reminds me of Guild Wars entering the online RPG world, it's very different that the rest. I chose for the Ascetic's armor, because I noticed the first place where you can craft scars, for both monk and necromancer, is in Kryta. Also because it's a typical Tyrian armor, nowhere in Cantha or Elona can you find pure scars armor. Then the pose. I chose for this one, because it's a calm and relaxed pose, just like the area. I just felt it fit the best. Not really much to add here." - I Only Protect You

Judge 1: I don't like it. I see Jane of the jungle, I don't see Prophecies. I can genuinely vouche that this was not a peaceful area, I've died here plenty of times trying to get to ToA.

Judge 2: I like it, it's kinda like you're showing the struggle that the Ascalonians had to make it to that area, they did escaped the Charr invasion, and they made it through the harsh Shiverpeaks...and they are trying to rebuild their lives here. I think it was a good attempt.

Judge 3: Eh. I guess it's somewhat original, but I don't think it proved a point. The picture doesn't strike me right off as Prophecies.

Perynne Walker

"I find that the unique, conflicting yet harmonious atmosphere of Factions really sets it apart from other Guild Wars games in a good way. There are conflicts everywhere that still somehow always come together to create something wonderful for the player to explore. While Shing Jea island is the epitome of a human structure built in harmony with it's surroundings, I still think the best place that displays the duality of Factions is right outside of Maatu Keep, where the overpopulated, derelict city clashes with the green hills.

While most of the city is run-down and dirty, the nature around it is blooming. After the claustrophobic areas of the city it is wonderful to be once more out in the sunshine, seeing a field of green grass and blue sky. Even the city looks beautiful and inviting from the outside, when seen from the sunshine. I decided to use Canthan armor to really bring out the good feeling with light colours, and it ended up blending wonderfully with the plantlife. I also posed Perynne to look like she's full of energy, revitalized after a long run through the dark corners of the city." - Perynne Walker

Judge 1: Very nice, one of the best pictures yet. The concept is a little iffy, but the picture is strong.

Judge 2: I love how the plants compliment your armor color. I like how you blend in, but the concept was weak. If I tagged the guild wars factions logo on it, it doesn't really work.

Judge 3: I think you blended in too much. Your armor makes you fade into the background, your face is lost with the building/mountain behind you. I don't think you stood out. You lost yourself in the background.

Raselle Deathblade

"This screenshot was taken in the place of Raselles birth, and upbringing. The shiverpeaks as a whole also represent her cold attitude, but hints at a dark past." - Raselle Deathblade

Judge 1: I think you kinda missed the boat on this one. We asked for you to show us Prophecies, but I think you were showing us more of your character's origin, versus your character's campaign.

Judge 2: I do agree with this being more of a personal story rather than showing us Prophecies. It was mentioned in the assignment that you should leave your rpg storyline aside and concentrate on your campaign.

Judge 3: It's an interesting shot no doubt, but it doesn't completely meet the idea, maybe it was just confusion that tripped you up.

Summer Newmentz

Judge 1: I suppose the "asian" aspect falls into play again, but I guess we won't know since there was no explanation at all.

Judge 2: Sometimes the picture speaks for itself...Again, it's not an original idea, but it does read Factions to me. I am a little uneasy that none of the required questions we're answered in your response though.

Judge 3: Agreed! Having none of our questions answered is a big no-no. Moving away from that, the asian theme isn't original, it's safe and rather bland to me.

Malefic Mistress

"Cantha is known for many things, But for anyone who has been here, they know and remember the city. Generally the city is filled with dark buildings, plain skys, and no scenery. After making it into this mission, I found that the city was much more than that. I wanted to show that hidden in the city was an area full of pink skies and blueish/purple toned buildings. I had Malefic stand in a pose that showed pride for coming from such a beautiful place." - Malefic Mistress

Judge 1: The scene looks nice. I guess it kinda translate to factions, as far as the urban area goes.

Judge 2: The idea was good, I also think the "shadey" area adds to your assination profession. It's a step up from the generic "asian" aspect...and that's coming from someone who's asian.

Judge 3: It's nice, it shows the city area, and if I'm correct, that's also the mission that counts for the Factions ascension process, so it's kinda like a two in one deal.

Naga Xaviera

"Anyone who has played the Prophecies Campaign will automatically recognize this area as the path to the mesa at Skyward reach, which leads the characters on the path to ascension. I think that it serves an important part of the campaign in that it represents the strenghtening of the heros by achieving ascension and earning the blessings of the tyrian gods. The armor chosen is a mix of Tyrian studded leather and obsidian, both of which are obtained after ascension. I think the stepping stones symbolize the start of the high level content in Tyria, so I chose a shot that overlooked them." - Naga Xaviera

Judge 1: I liked how you stood up on the platform to show a more interesting angle on the ascension monument.

Judge 2: I love the scene, it's very pretty, and I liked your positioning. I only wished you kept your shadow in it, because I actually thought your shadow in the picture was pretty. It definitely reminds me of Jessica Alba in Dark Angel, how she would stand on buildings looking down and stuff.

Judge 3: This picture makes for a good landscape portraight, you don't stand out very much. I think you should've sat down on that pillar and then pose, that way, more of you would've been shown and I think you could've fit in the necessary landscape.

Aure Fatali

Judge 1: No picture, no nothing. gg.

Judge 2: I'm extremely devastated, because we overlooked a lot of well deserved applicants to put you in it, and I feel like having you in the contest was wasted space. Whether you had personal problems or something going on, I'm just so upset, cause we sent out letters asking you whether or not you wanted to participate and you said you did. So I'm just a little discouraged about that.

Judge 3: It's a shame really...but the competition must go on. I thought you had one of the best applications, talking about how you style your character and the various armor she would wear for what occassion. It's sad.

Those were shortened evaluations rewritten and condensed by myself after rereading our chat transcript. And here is everyone's score and ranking...

Catherine Divine: 03 09 03 = 15
Xo Katina Xo: 07 08 02 = 17
Mortissia Faust: 09 12 10 = 31
Jaden Stone: 08 03 12 = 23
Burnout Chic: 02 11 07 = 20
I Only Protect You: 05 04 06 = 15
Perynne Walker: 12 06 04 = 22
Raselle Deathblade: 06 02 11 = 19
Summer Newmentz:04 05 05 = 14
Malefic Mistress: 11 10 09 = 30
Naga Xaviera: 10 07 08 = 25
Aure Fatali: 01 01 01 = 03

Malefic Mistress and Mortissia Faust have the highest scores, and they are up for Model of the Week, winning best picture of the week can have great benefits as you may choose one of two special prizes...

1. An in game prize which will vary from week to week.
or
2. A special contest prize which will also vary from week to week...and this week, it's adding three points to your score for the next round. Which could essentially save you from elimination or even carry you to best picture.

And that leaves Aure Fatali and Summer Newmentz with the lowest scores, putting them in bottom two with one being eliminated from this competition.

The winner of Model of the Week and the eliminated contestant will be announced tomorrow, as well as the next Photoshoot Assignment at this rate, but that's ok, more time for you guys to get your photoshoots together is good.

Congratulations to everyone who is safe in this round!

Geishe · Dec 17, 2006, 02:35 AM // 02:35

Question. What is the whole mark out of? Is each rating out of 20? If thats the case, we didnt do too wellll >.<

tomcruisejr · Dec 17, 2006, 05:32 AM // 05:32

i enjoyed the judges comments. and im excited to see the result of the 2nd round.

Chyra Deathblade · Dec 17, 2006, 05:44 AM // 05:44

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Judge 1: I think you kinda missed the boat on this one. We asked for you to show us Prophecies, but I think you were showing us more of your character's origin, versus your character's campaign.

Judge 2: I do agree with this being more of a personal story rather than showing us Prophecies. It was mentioned in the assignment that you should leave your rpg storyline aside and concentrate on your campaign.

Judge 3: It's an interesting shot no doubt, but it doesn't completely meet the idea, maybe it was just confusion that tripped you up

I agree. I took to much focus on my character, and not my surrounding environement. Something I'll keep in mind for next time.

I'm glad however, that I made it to the next round at least.

LadyNilene · Dec 17, 2006, 07:03 AM // 07:03

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Originally Posted by Geishe

Question. What is the whole mark out of? Is each rating out of 20? If thats the case, we didnt do too wellll >.<

If I understand correctly, you're wondering about how scoring went? If so...basically, what happens is after we deliberate with each other, we each individually rank everyone from 1-12. 1 being the worst and twelve being the best. After all three of us finish ranking, we add the three scores together for each contestant. For example:

Lets say I rank this:

Person 1 - 3
Person 2 - 2
Person 3 - 1

And Setsuna rank this way:

Person 1 - 2
Person 2 - 3
Person 1 - 1

and Gema this:

Person 1 - 1
Person 2 - 2
Person 3 - 3

With everyone done ranking, we each add up the scores for the person...

Person 1 - 3 (from me), 2 (from setsuna), 1 (from Gema) = 6
Person 2 - 2, 3, 2 = 7
Person 3 - 1, 1, 3 = 5

Then we go from there taking out the lowest score and highest score and everyone else in the middle. Does that make sense? Hopefully it does, cause I don't know how else to explain it lol

dronex · Dec 17, 2006, 07:23 AM // 07:23

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After taking and selecting a screenshot, please send a non-edited full sized original along with a cropped version

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Judge 1: You talk about Dwayna in your explanation, yet I don't see Dwayna in your picture at all.

Judge 2: If you included Dwayna in your picture, maybe crop it like this...

I did include the fullsize screenshot wich is the main screenshot, the croped version was there just because the mail stated that i have to have one, now cropped version should have been me not dwayna becase if i had the fullsize screen resized it wouldnt be cropped now would it. Im not happy with the ranking.

I thought this will be judged but whatever.

Unlucky Slayer · Dec 17, 2006, 07:26 AM // 07:26

Since when were there questions that needed answered? Damn must have spaced on that one. Oh well.

Geishe · Dec 17, 2006, 07:38 AM // 07:38

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Originally Posted by LadyNilene

Judge 1: Not good, not bad. You talked about the "royal families", but I wasn't sure in what reference that was made in.

Thank you for the explanation LadyNilene, Its reminds me of those internet quizes, lol >.<

Oh, and about the Imperial Sanctum and such... its all about Canthan Ancient Lore. I followed the campaigns lore (described in mansucript/manual) instead of following the campaigns story, so I apologize for that.

broodijzer · Dec 17, 2006, 09:50 AM // 09:50

hehe tough judges. I'm on the low side, but at least I'm through

Is it about who has the most points at the end, or is this round 'forgotten' with the next rounds?

Maria The Princess · Dec 17, 2006, 10:51 AM // 10:51

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Rurik was with Althea, even if she was dead...

it wasnt real love, Athena was just using Sympathetic Visage which expired cuz she died

LadyNilene · Dec 17, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

After much deliberations...this week's winner for Model Of The Week is...

Congratulations to Mortissia Faust, we felt that your picture would've made the perfect ad for Guild Wars Factions. Although the concept of the picture was a bit stiff, you managed to liven it up with the effects of the glowing pot and your interesting movement in the shot. You may select one of two prizes...

1. A Book Of Secrets which can be traded in for an end game green in the Nightfall Campaign.

or

2. Three points added to your ranking for the next assignment. (in this case, photoshoot 2)

Please get with me with your decision through email/privage message/or just post cause I'll announce it either way. And remember, whatever prize you choose will not have any weight on deliberations.

Alright, so onto our first elimination.

Aure Fatali - For someone who had such a stunning application, it blindsided us that you would be the one to not submit a photoshoot for judging. It makes us question your position in this competition, first impressions are lasting impression...and right now, it's not looking too good. The fact that you haven't even bothered to get in touch with me about this issue is also alarming.

Summer Newmentz - For our first week, already people are not completely paying attention to our assignments. Not answering these questions could really hinder you in this competition. These questions are here to help us get some insight on what is going on in your mind, and to help you defend your picture. For example, Raselle Deathblade's picture was off the mark, but we could understand that because of her explanation...it saved her from possible elimination. It was a simple mistake, so I think you guys will pay a little closer attention to the assignment...

With that said, simple mistakes are forgiven, that means Aure Fatali, you are no longer in the running to becoming Tyria's Next Top Model.

Congratulations to Mortissia for winning Model of The Week, and to everyone who passed the first week of competition. The next photoshoot will be announced shortly....

And at this time, I would like to answer some concerns that were raised in the thread...

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I did include the fullsize screenshot wich is the main screenshot, the croped version was there just because the mail stated that i have to have one, now cropped version should have been me not dwayna becase if i had the fullsize screen resized it wouldnt be cropped now would it. Im not happy with the ranking.

I thought this will be judged but whatever.

I know that language barriers could present a problem, but I can't really accommodate for that. I am doing my best to make things as clear cut as they can be, but I know there is always going to be something that could be a little ambiguous. All I can say to that is if there is any confusion or questions that you may have, please please pleaseeee feel free to ask. I will never blow you off or bite you lol. Just to clear this confusion up right now, yes you can just send me a full size and have that judged, however, I do want to point out that that might not be so good since having a lot of "negative space" in your picture could take away from the main focus. What I suggest is crop your picture so that it contains everything that you want and nothing more.

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Since when were there questions that needed answered? Damn must have spaced on that one. Oh well.

I checked the assignment I sent you guys, and surely enough, the questions were there for everyone, so it wasnt a matter of you not getting them. I guess you just got too anxious and skipped right through them. I mean, everyone else who submitted an entry had them answer...so I can only say you were too antsy lol.

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Oh, and about the Imperial Sanctum and such... its all about Canthan Ancient Lore. I followed the campaigns lore (described in mansucript/manual) instead of following the campaigns story, so I apologize for that.

This is serious guys, the explanations you guys provide us is the ONLY insight we get from you guys. We aren't psychic, this isn't an interactive event, so you guys have to take the time and really show and tell us EVERYTHING on how you came up with your picture, we can only judge by from what we know and from what you tell us, and if you don't tell us certain things, we can't consider them for judging. This is why these questions are so important, so please don't shrug them off! So if there is something you got from somewhere, please tell us, cause none of us are "guild wars gurus" lol

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Is it about who has the most points at the end, or is this round 'forgotten' with the next rounds?

Your past/present performance will be carried through to each round, but the points will not. We will only compare and contrast your performance, to see if you improved or if you didn't, past/present performance will always be taken into account for judging, but the point system for each week will be unique for that particular week and will always be renewed.

Alright guys, I hope that clears some stuff up, be ready for the next photoshoot! And Mortissia, please don't forget to get with me about your prize!

broodijzer · Dec 17, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15

thanks for clearing stuff up. can't wait till the next assignment!

Geishe · Dec 17, 2006, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Oohoh , thanks judges! I just have one question concerning best picture. Does the person with the most points get a guarantee best picture? Or is there some form deliberation from the two highest points?

"Thanks for believing in me." (Jade, ANTM cycle 6) LOLOLOL.
I'm still deciding which prize to pick, so i'll respond as soon as I make up my mind ^.^ Thanks for the great prizes, judges!

P.S for later assignments, are we allowed to wear our headgear? Ritualist Headgear tends to cover up the face but provides even more detail to the model.

LadyNilene · Dec 17, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Welcome to the wild life of modeling, no pun intended. The girl's from every cycle of top model have always been put through the test of modeling with other lively models. From snakes to bulls, to spiders and elephants, the girls from top model have done it all, and you guys will be no different. For your second Photoshoot Assignment, you must pick out an animal to take a screenshot with. (Originally I wanted to assign a specific animal to pose with, crocodile's to be exact, but some might not have Nightfall so going with random this time round...) And no, you don't have to be a ranger to charm an animal to do this shot, I've taken a picture just fine without being a ranger or /ranger, and here it is...

What I did was attack the flamingo, and have it chase me around, and while it pecked and jumped at me, I posed and screen print lol. I think that works out best since that way, the animal will always be near you, and it's always be in action rather than just standing there. Aside from how the picture was taken, you also want to take into consideration the animal and its characteristics. Flamingo's, to me, are sleek and elegant, so I was trying to portray sleekness and elegance. I went with Luxon 1.5k armor dyed purple to complement the pink from the flamingo. I tried to get a pose that looked elegant.

Just a heads up, be wary of your background! You don't want random objects/character's/things/etc in your background that could distract from your shot. Like so...

After carefully examining and selecting your shot, please submit a full size non edited picture and a cropped version of how you want your picture to be perceived/evaluated, with answers to the following questions.

1. Where was your picture taken? (place and campaign)

2. What animal did you choose and why?

3. Explain your picture

This photoshoot will be due Friday December 22, 2006!

Same rules will apply for this round as they were before.

And to answer questions asked by Geishe...

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Does the person with the most points get a guarantee best picture? Or is there some form deliberation from the two highest points?

There is deliberation. Same applies for the two lowest score. So after we pull out the two highest and two lowest, we deliberate on who should win MOTW and who should be eliminated.

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P.S for later assignments, are we allowed to wear our headgear? Ritualist Headgear tends to cover up the face but provides even more detail to the model.

Good question...I honestly wouldn't recommend using head gears that would cover your face, that goes for Rit/Ranger/Sin/etc. Unless they really add to your picture and convey something, than i wouldnt use them. Not to discourage you if you want to you use them...if they look nice and actually work for the theme, then go for it!

broodijzer · Dec 17, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57

ooh difficult one

when's the deadline?

Brandon1107 · Dec 17, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01

There should be a male version of this cuz my Paragon looks so friggin godly. Good luck to contestants. Looks like a tougher one.

Geishe · Dec 17, 2006, 10:30 PM // 22:30

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Originally Posted by LadyNilene

There is deliberation. Same applies for the two lowest score. So after we pull out the two highest and two lowest, we deliberate on who should win MOTW and who should be eliminated.

Okie, in that case, Ill go with the book of secrets. Its still early in the competition so I really dont think Ill be it too much danger. Thank you much for the prize judges!!